The following interview was from a 1975 assignment given to students at JEFFERSON COUNTY JUNIOR COLLEGE in Hillsboro, MO. They were to select a longtime resident of the county and ask them a prepared list of questions about their recollections of their family's experiences in the county.

 

              Interview with Nola Propst of De Soto Mo. 

 

 

Ivr:  You're Nola. Nola Propst? How   long  have   you   lived   in   Jefferson   County   now?               

 

Ive:   Well,    from   1919,    let's   see,   1928   we   moved   to   Crystal   City.

 

Ivr:  1928. Have   you   lived   out   in   this   area....out   here   off   the   JJ   Road   here....        

 

Ive:   Since   1927,    37,    1937.

 

Ivr:  Have   you   seen,  living   out  here   this   long,   seen   quite   a bit   of   difference   in   the   population  as  fast as   this area people moving in or moving out?

 

Ive:      Oh   yes,   quite   a   bit,   quite   a   few   of   them,   big   difference              

 

Ivr: When   would   you   say   the   change   as   far   as   people   starting to   move   in   the   area   took   place?

 

Ive:        Oh   I'll   say   about   1935   or  something   like   that.

 

Ivr:  You   mean   it's   been growing  ever since   1935?

 

Ive :   Yeah.

 

Ivr:  You   think   the   last ten  years, maybe  fifteen years   it's seemed like   the   people's   been   on   more   of   a   move   to   move  out of the area.

 

Ivr     For   this   area?

Ive:      Every   year,   every   year   our   taxes   go   up.

Ivr:    I   know   you   live   out   of   the   city   limits   here   and   everything

Ive:   Yes,   it's   been   quite   a bit   of  building   out   in   here since then

Ivr:    Do  you   think   most   of   the   people that  live around this area  work in the city or do they farm out in this area?

Ive:   Well   the   majority   of   them yes,  work in St. Louis   in the   cities,

Ivr:    What   do   you   think,   what   do  you think the reason the people move out in this area?

Ive:   Well,   I,   I   would   think,   I've talked to   several different ones   and   they   seem   to   think   it's   cheaper   living   out   in  the   country   than   it   is   in   the   city,

Ivr:    If   you  had   to  go  back   to  work,   now I know you're   retired,  would  you   think   you'd  want  to   live   out   in   this   area   or would  you  move?

 

Ive -. Oh   yeah ,

 

Ivr:    You  wouldn't   move   in   closer   to   the   city?

Ive:  No.

Ivr:  What do you think are some of the needs that Jefferson County needs out here as a result of all these people moving in out here that would kind of help it out?

 

 

Ive  Well, I really wouldn't know what we need, but I do know that the taxes and everything are going   up.

Ivr: You think the  taxes  are  pretty  reasonable now  or   do   you think they're too  high?

 

Ive:        Well,  I   think   they're   too  high.
 

Ivr:   For  this   area?

 

Ive:   Every  year, every year our   taxes   go   up.
 

Ivr:   I   know   you   live   out   of   the   city       limits   here   and   everything you think there’s anything as far as your tax money should be maybe spent on as far as roads or anything in this area that could improve this area?

  

Ive:  Well,   as   far   as   the   roads,   like   I   say,   they've   got   good  roads. They've   improved   them   every   year,   blacktopped   them.

 

 Ivr:            All these people out in this area, or in Jefferson County, they, you think it’s good or bad?

 

Ive:            I think it’s good myself.

 

Ivr:             Do you think crime has gone up any in the last five or ten years due to?

 

Ive:      Well,   I   think   it   has,   yes.

 

Ivr:      Have you had any personal experience with people stealing anything from you out in this area?

 

Ive: No, not here I haven't.  Well, when we first started to build a house they, we had the foundation in and we bought it from Hill-Behan and they brought it down on a Friday and of course Pon was the nephew was building the house.  And they worked over here, I was working Saturday And they worked over here Saturday putting the framework up and they got the rafters up and we was going to put the shingling up Sunday and I came up here Sunday morning and they wasn't nothing up there.  Everything was gone.

 

Ivr: Done, done took it away?

 

Ive: Yeah, oh everything was, plywood and all.

 

Ivr: Do they have any zoning out in this area at all? Restrictions of any kind?

 

Ive: Oh yeah.

 

Ivr: They   do?

 

Ive: Yes.

 

Ivr: Do  you  have   any   comments   on   them?      Do   you   think   they're good  

or   need   to  be   improved?

 

Ive: Well,   I   don't   know   too   much   about   it,   but  I  know  we didn't  have  too,  I   didn't  have too much dealings with  it for   I   started   my   house   before   this   zoning  went   in.    

 I poured   my,   foundation and then I went on up with it and I didn't have to get no permit.

 

Ivr: I'll   be   durn.  Do   you   know   anything   about   the   Meramec Basin   Project?

 

Ive: No.

 

Ivr: Or   the   Jefferson   County   Port   Authority?

 

Ive: No,    I   don't   know   anything   about   it,

 

Ivr: When   you   first   moved   out   in   this   area,   you   say you  were about   17   years   old?

 

Ive: No,   out  here.

 

Ivr: No,   I   mean   into   Jefferson   County.

 

Ive: Yeah.                                                                                                                    

 

Ivr:  Where did you live at that time?

 

Ive:  Crystal City.

 

Ivr:  Is that right after you went to work at Pittsburgh?

 

Ive:  Yeah, Pittsburgh.

 

Ivr.- Did you have a car then?

 

Ive:  Well no, I didn't, but later on I bought a Model A.

 

Ivr:  Did you buy a new one or a used one?

 

Ive:  No, a used one.

 

Ivr: Do   you   remember   what   you   give   for   it?

 

Ive:  think   it   was   about   $200,   it  was   used.      It  was   my   dad's and   I   bought   it   from  him.

 

Ivr: Crystal   City   pretty   well  had   all  paved   streets   at  that   time were'nt   they?
  

 Ive   No,
  

 Ivr:       Mostly   dirt?

 

Ive: Some   of   them  was   dirt   and  blacktop.

Ivr:        Yeah.      Were   they   pretty   rough   going?

 

Ive:        Well,   the   back,   back   alley   streets   was,   yes.        But   Main Street I think was concrete at that time,
 

 Ivr  Did you ever get stuck with your Model A?
     

Ive:   No.

 

Ivr:        Never   did   have  no  problem?
    

Ive:           No,      no.

 

Ivr:      Can   you   remember   the   first   time   you   went   to   St.  Louis?
  

Ive:      Well   I,   I   can   tell   pretty   close .It  was   summer  near round      1931   I   guess.

 

Ivr:        Do   you   remember   what   the   reason   of   the   trip   was?

 

Ive:         Well, my brother-in-law lived up in St. Louis and he didn’t have any car and I went up and got him and brought them down and then I           took them back.

 

Ivr:          How long did it take you to make the trip?

 

Ive:         Oh, on Sunday evening it took about an hour and a half. Or two       hours cause the traffic was so heavy sometimes you’d just have to stop dead still.

 

Ivr:          Is that right?  Going from Crystal City to St. Louis at that time?  I’ll     be durn.

 

Ive:         Yeah.